Gauging interest on how much New Zealander's care about the flag change debate has so far been mostly anecdotal.
The nationwide roadshow and hui drew ridicule and criticism for the small numbers which attended them, but Flag Consideration Panel chair Professor John Burrows maintained more of the conversation was happening online.
And it turns out he was right.
With the deadline for submitting alternative New Zealand flag designs closing at midnight last night, the panel has released more details about how people have been engaging with the debate.
Here are some of the numbers:
The independent panel of 12 will now whittle the thousands of designs down to a long list of around 50 to 75 by mid-August.
The four alternatives which the public will vote on in the first referendum will be announced in mid-September.