Labour has released its confidential internal polling in an unprecedented move to defend Andrew Little's leadership.
The polling "snapshot" shows National on 40 percent - which is totally out of step with any poll by Newshub-Reid Research since John Key took power.
Even the Labour strategist releasing the poll said this result needed to be treated with caution.
National polled 47 percent on Election night and it was on 45 percent on the most recent Newshub-Reid Research poll taken in August.
The lowest it has ever been on a Newshub-Reid Research poll is 44.5 percent - in January and September 2014.
So the National on 40 percent that Labour is now purporting seems a long way out of line.
The results are usually kept tight to MPs and staff but Labour has released the results after Mr Little was questioned about poor poll ratings.
No other recent Labour leader has done this - Phil Goff, David Shearer and David Cunliffe all kept the results within the party.
Labour says the poll of 750 people was taken from August 31 to September 5 and has a margin of error of 3.6 percent.