Behind every great musician lies a great producer and Lorde is no different.
Joel Little co-wrote and produced the hit song Royals – in fact, he's co-written and produced pretty much everything she's done.
The song they wrote together for The Hunger Games, 'Yellow Flicker Beat' is up for a Silver Scroll award on Thursday – the third year in a row that Little's been a finalist.
But does he think they'll win it this year?
He joined Paul Henry live from Los Angeles today to discuss the odds and his life as one of the most in demand producers in Hollywood right now.
Watch the video for the full interview with Joel Little.