'Laser Kiwi' designer on flag finalists
Today Story tracked down the man who designed the most famous flag of all – the legendary 'Laser Kiwi' flag.
Its official name is 'Fire the Laser' and, according to its creator, it's a design that "is so powerful it does not need to be discussed".
But this afternoon flag designer James Gray did discuss his flag and the four finalists.
Watch the video for the full interview.